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		<title>By: Upendra de Silva</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/325/comment-page-1#comment-5999</link>
		<dc:creator>Upendra de Silva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20
You prove that the Sinhalese and Tamils are the same. Thus, there is no concept of a tamil homeland.  To me tamil homeland concept is  racist.</description>
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You prove that the Sinhalese and Tamils are the same. Thus, there is no concept of a tamil homeland.  To me tamil homeland concept is  racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Deva</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/325/comment-page-1#comment-5974</link>
		<dc:creator>Deva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to post #7

diplo mut

*****He states that the Buddhist remains in the North are those of Tamil buddhists.*****

Yes, the above is very true.

For some people like you, either ignorance is bliss or you pretend to be asleep who can never be woken up. 

What has Buddhism got to do with Sinhala? There are Buddhist ruins in many parts of North and South India and in Afghan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Burma, Nepal, Madras (Mylapore) and so on, are they all Sinhala? 

The terms Sinhala and Buddhism were interlinked or made into one unit as Sinhala-Buddhism only recently, very much after the 13th century AD. 

It is true that Ruwanweli Seya was built by Emperor Dutugamunu the national hero of Sri Lanka from Rohana (ancient south Lanka) who is believed to be from the *Sinhala* dynasty (a ruling linage group) but that does not mean that all the ancient Buddhist structures and monuments in Sri Lanka were built by the Sinhalese or belongs only to the Sinhalese. The ancient Buddhist structures in the North, North Central and some parts of east belong to the Tamils who were also Buddhists during the ancient period.

The Tamil Buddhist monks of South India&#039; Sri Lanka (SISL) region during the ancient period used Pali languages in preference to Tamil in their writings. This is because the Buddha spoke in Magadi Prakrit (Pali) which was considered to be the sacred language of the Buddhists. The place names of the Buddhist sites in the North also had Pali names.

Refer post # 89 on Tamil Buddhism (http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/521)

*****How does he explain the thousand or so Sinhala place names in Jaffna which remain in a Tamilised form??*****

What makes you think that those are Sinhala names??

We already know that Pali is the core of the Sinhala language. As per the linguists and language scholars in Sri Lanka, there are more than 4,000 Tamil words in the Sinhala vocabulary. 

During the early period, it was not easy to identify or differentiate the people or place names as Tamil or Sinhala. 

As per the pre-historic and early historic inscriptions in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka, the Tamil names did not end with an &#039;n&#039; or an &#039;m&#039; or an &#039;i&#039;, but were very similar to those Prakrit or Pali names ending with &#039;a&#039;. 

It was only in the last few centuries that the language, the shape of the characters, the names etc. have evolved into the present form. This might have happened after the Tamils developing what it is commonly called as the &#039;pulli (dot) system&#039; which is peculiar to Tamils in particular among the Indian lanaguages and due to this dot system the words/names ending with &#039;a&#039; ends up with &#039;n&#039; and &#039;m&#039;. 

That is why, if not for the pali chronicles such as the Mahavamsa which mentions the ethnic identity of the Kings of Anuradhapura (Sena, Guttika, Elara, Pulahatha, Bahiya, Panayamara, Parinda, Dathiya, and many others) as Tamils, we would not have known if our historians were to depend only on the inscriptions, that these Kings were Tamils. Here, we have to give some credit to the Mahavamsa.

Since, Pali and Prakrit languages were widely used among the monks and Tamil/Sinhala (Sinhala contains both Pali and Tamil) were used commonly among the people and most of the Kings knew almost all of them, there were hardly any differences among the Sri Lankans (including their names) before the 12th CAD. It was only after the 13th CAD, we have a clear difference as Sinhalese and Tamils.

Regarding the place names what you have given in your post # 7, if you want to know their origin and meanings, there is a special column in the Tamil net called Know the Etymology: The Place Name of the Day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to post #7</p>
<p>diplo mut</p>
<p>*****He states that the Buddhist remains in the North are those of Tamil buddhists.*****</p>
<p>Yes, the above is very true.</p>
<p>For some people like you, either ignorance is bliss or you pretend to be asleep who can never be woken up. </p>
<p>What has Buddhism got to do with Sinhala? There are Buddhist ruins in many parts of North and South India and in Afghan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Burma, Nepal, Madras (Mylapore) and so on, are they all Sinhala? </p>
<p>The terms Sinhala and Buddhism were interlinked or made into one unit as Sinhala-Buddhism only recently, very much after the 13th century AD. </p>
<p>It is true that Ruwanweli Seya was built by Emperor Dutugamunu the national hero of Sri Lanka from Rohana (ancient south Lanka) who is believed to be from the *Sinhala* dynasty (a ruling linage group) but that does not mean that all the ancient Buddhist structures and monuments in Sri Lanka were built by the Sinhalese or belongs only to the Sinhalese. The ancient Buddhist structures in the North, North Central and some parts of east belong to the Tamils who were also Buddhists during the ancient period.</p>
<p>The Tamil Buddhist monks of South India&#8217; Sri Lanka (SISL) region during the ancient period used Pali languages in preference to Tamil in their writings. This is because the Buddha spoke in Magadi Prakrit (Pali) which was considered to be the sacred language of the Buddhists. The place names of the Buddhist sites in the North also had Pali names.</p>
<p>Refer post # 89 on Tamil Buddhism (<a href="http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/521" rel="nofollow">http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/521</a>)</p>
<p>*****How does he explain the thousand or so Sinhala place names in Jaffna which remain in a Tamilised form??*****</p>
<p>What makes you think that those are Sinhala names??</p>
<p>We already know that Pali is the core of the Sinhala language. As per the linguists and language scholars in Sri Lanka, there are more than 4,000 Tamil words in the Sinhala vocabulary. </p>
<p>During the early period, it was not easy to identify or differentiate the people or place names as Tamil or Sinhala. </p>
<p>As per the pre-historic and early historic inscriptions in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka, the Tamil names did not end with an &#8216;n&#8217; or an &#8216;m&#8217; or an &#8216;i&#8217;, but were very similar to those Prakrit or Pali names ending with &#8216;a&#8217;. </p>
<p>It was only in the last few centuries that the language, the shape of the characters, the names etc. have evolved into the present form. This might have happened after the Tamils developing what it is commonly called as the &#8216;pulli (dot) system&#8217; which is peculiar to Tamils in particular among the Indian lanaguages and due to this dot system the words/names ending with &#8216;a&#8217; ends up with &#8216;n&#8217; and &#8216;m&#8217;. </p>
<p>That is why, if not for the pali chronicles such as the Mahavamsa which mentions the ethnic identity of the Kings of Anuradhapura (Sena, Guttika, Elara, Pulahatha, Bahiya, Panayamara, Parinda, Dathiya, and many others) as Tamils, we would not have known if our historians were to depend only on the inscriptions, that these Kings were Tamils. Here, we have to give some credit to the Mahavamsa.</p>
<p>Since, Pali and Prakrit languages were widely used among the monks and Tamil/Sinhala (Sinhala contains both Pali and Tamil) were used commonly among the people and most of the Kings knew almost all of them, there were hardly any differences among the Sri Lankans (including their names) before the 12th CAD. It was only after the 13th CAD, we have a clear difference as Sinhalese and Tamils.</p>
<p>Regarding the place names what you have given in your post # 7, if you want to know their origin and meanings, there is a special column in the Tamil net called Know the Etymology: The Place Name of the Day</p>
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		<title>By: Lester</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/325/comment-page-1#comment-5442</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18, 
I think you mis spelled your name as  &#039;Tamil Patriot &#039; I think you meant to write &#039;Tamil Parrot&#039; because you are just parroting propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18,<br />
I think you mis spelled your name as  &#8216;Tamil Patriot &#8216; I think you meant to write &#8216;Tamil Parrot&#8217; because you are just parroting propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamil Patriot</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/325/comment-page-1#comment-5419</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamil Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wake up guys dream is over, try pinching your skin.

Prabakaran is an avatar come to save the Tamils from the Singhalese demons, you can kill a human not an avatar. 

Your days are numbered soon the elimination process will start, hurry up, ask India or Pakistan for the evacuation of the stranded Singhalese invaders from the Tamil homeland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake up guys dream is over, try pinching your skin.</p>
<p>Prabakaran is an avatar come to save the Tamils from the Singhalese demons, you can kill a human not an avatar. </p>
<p>Your days are numbered soon the elimination process will start, hurry up, ask India or Pakistan for the evacuation of the stranded Singhalese invaders from the Tamil homeland.</p>
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		<title>By: Lester</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/325/comment-page-1#comment-5384</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13, 
A a proud and ancient Tamil race with many of whom hav resorted to supporting a terrorist organisation banned in 32 countries and responsible for killing Rajiv Ghandhi because all the intellectuals have been killed by the same organisation. 

By the way  I think you can do better that King Hussain as your moral authority on terror (i.e arch apoligist) ,  Noam Chompsky is usually the apologist of choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13,<br />
A a proud and ancient Tamil race with many of whom hav resorted to supporting a terrorist organisation banned in 32 countries and responsible for killing Rajiv Ghandhi because all the intellectuals have been killed by the same organisation. </p>
<p>By the way  I think you can do better that King Hussain as your moral authority on terror (i.e arch apoligist) ,  Noam Chompsky is usually the apologist of choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Gamini</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/325/comment-page-1#comment-5382</link>
		<dc:creator>Gamini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 Dayan, 

I disagree with his starting point, that silencing a wanted terrorist is some how related to silencing Tamil&#039;s. This premise can only be true if he beleives that collectively Prabha speaks for all Tamils, now if he truly belives this, then Prabha has acheived what he wanted when he purged a generation of Tamil politicians and thinkers from the political landscape through the most violent of means. 

I dont need to tell the Retired judge the terror the tigers have caused he suffers from selective amnesia. The retired judge clearly lives in an ivory tower or in some far away place where it is ok to kill civilians, assasinate political figures and those who have different opinions if you appoint yourself the sole supreme grand dragon god figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15 Dayan, </p>
<p>I disagree with his starting point, that silencing a wanted terrorist is some how related to silencing Tamil&#8217;s. This premise can only be true if he beleives that collectively Prabha speaks for all Tamils, now if he truly belives this, then Prabha has acheived what he wanted when he purged a generation of Tamil politicians and thinkers from the political landscape through the most violent of means. </p>
<p>I dont need to tell the Retired judge the terror the tigers have caused he suffers from selective amnesia. The retired judge clearly lives in an ivory tower or in some far away place where it is ok to kill civilians, assasinate political figures and those who have different opinions if you appoint yourself the sole supreme grand dragon god figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Dyan</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/325/comment-page-1#comment-5362</link>
		<dc:creator>Dyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Athos  
Yes. IC and Tamils feel the same as you. Who appointed a Tamil as the Supreme court judge in a Sinhala buddist country?

 Gamini
What about the ordinary Tamil&#039;s view? Is he reflecting the ordinary Tamil&#039;s view?

Devinda Fernando
Prabakaran is not a god, He is really a committed liberation fighter for Tamils. Tamils have faith in him.

Kumara Ehanayake
Killing of Pirabakaran is not easy. But the LTTE leader already organised the movement  for every eventuality, it seems like.

Diplomut&#039;
Have you had a white van? Do you want to give a lift to the judge?

Dias
Tamils are not in the mood to think about Sri Lanka. They need a safe place to live without killings, abductions and discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Athos<br />
Yes. IC and Tamils feel the same as you. Who appointed a Tamil as the Supreme court judge in a Sinhala buddist country?</p>
<p> Gamini<br />
What about the ordinary Tamil&#8217;s view? Is he reflecting the ordinary Tamil&#8217;s view?</p>
<p>Devinda Fernando<br />
Prabakaran is not a god, He is really a committed liberation fighter for Tamils. Tamils have faith in him.</p>
<p>Kumara Ehanayake<br />
Killing of Pirabakaran is not easy. But the LTTE leader already organised the movement  for every eventuality, it seems like.</p>
<p>Diplomut&#8217;<br />
Have you had a white van? Do you want to give a lift to the judge?</p>
<p>Dias<br />
Tamils are not in the mood to think about Sri Lanka. They need a safe place to live without killings, abductions and discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: Devinda Fernando</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/325/comment-page-1#comment-5356</link>
		<dc:creator>Devinda Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*** Killing Prabaharan is not possible. He is the manifestation of the Tamil pain. If he goes some one else will take over. ***

Yes, someone will take over and actually Talk and hold to Peace agreements...

Let us Help the Tamil people and Rid them of this Blocking Turd in the water pipe,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*** Killing Prabaharan is not possible. He is the manifestation of the Tamil pain. If he goes some one else will take over. ***</p>
<p>Yes, someone will take over and actually Talk and hold to Peace agreements&#8230;</p>
<p>Let us Help the Tamil people and Rid them of this Blocking Turd in the water pipe,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: K. Arvind</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/325/comment-page-1#comment-5353</link>
		<dc:creator>K. Arvind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justice Vigneswaran is a learned and fearless gentleman. His talents and learning could have been used for the good of the country and for all its constituent people - but, in the nature of things as they are in this confused land, this so far is not to be. Like all of us Tamils, he bears no ill-will towards our Sinhala brothers and sisters. That is demonstrated in many aspects of his powerful speech here.

He is proud of the ancient Tamil race while respecting others.

He rightfully says &quot;Terrorists are not born-they are made&quot; and so did King Hussein of Jordan when he was questioned by the American Press Club in 1973-after the 1972 Munich Olympics about Black September.

In as much as the Tamil militants took arms against the State&#039;s perceived injustices so did the JVP - points out Justice Vigneswaran. I have complained elsewhere the rehabilitation and the understanding that accompanied the JVP insurrectionists by the State and its resources which brought them into the political mainstream with some of them becoming Ministers - somehow escaped the Tamil militants. &quot;Terrorism&quot; is a much hyped word. There was a noted administrator who used to, in lighter vein,  talk of &quot;Administrative Terrorism&quot; when we in the business community complained of shortcomings by the GoSL.

There is still much space for the Govt and the polity in the South to work out a formulae for a United Sri Lanka. As the late Anton Balasingham said &quot;It is upto the Sinhala South to decide if we should remain a single country or 2 separate countries&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justice Vigneswaran is a learned and fearless gentleman. His talents and learning could have been used for the good of the country and for all its constituent people &#8211; but, in the nature of things as they are in this confused land, this so far is not to be. Like all of us Tamils, he bears no ill-will towards our Sinhala brothers and sisters. That is demonstrated in many aspects of his powerful speech here.</p>
<p>He is proud of the ancient Tamil race while respecting others.</p>
<p>He rightfully says &#8220;Terrorists are not born-they are made&#8221; and so did King Hussein of Jordan when he was questioned by the American Press Club in 1973-after the 1972 Munich Olympics about Black September.</p>
<p>In as much as the Tamil militants took arms against the State&#8217;s perceived injustices so did the JVP &#8211; points out Justice Vigneswaran. I have complained elsewhere the rehabilitation and the understanding that accompanied the JVP insurrectionists by the State and its resources which brought them into the political mainstream with some of them becoming Ministers &#8211; somehow escaped the Tamil militants. &#8220;Terrorism&#8221; is a much hyped word. There was a noted administrator who used to, in lighter vein,  talk of &#8220;Administrative Terrorism&#8221; when we in the business community complained of shortcomings by the GoSL.</p>
<p>There is still much space for the Govt and the polity in the South to work out a formulae for a United Sri Lanka. As the late Anton Balasingham said &#8220;It is upto the Sinhala South to decide if we should remain a single country or 2 separate countries&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Diplomut</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/325/comment-page-1#comment-5332</link>
		<dc:creator>Diplomut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Wigs states that killing Prabakaran will not silence the Tamils.

Dear Mr Wigs, I have news for you. the same applies to the Sinhalese. Killing Premadasa, Kadirgamar, bombing the central bank, dalada maligawa etc will not  silence the Sinhalese or submit them to concede anything to anybody. After 30 years what have the Sinhalese conceded?

Since the LTTE is targetting the Sri Lankan leadership, the LTTE leadership is fair game.

The Sri Lankans are perfectly capable of dealing with terrorism. We did it with the JVP and Pinoche did it in Chile. We will do it again in Sri Lanka within the next 12 months.

I now the Tamil nationalists have a different opinion, and we cannot convince them as they cannot convince the Sinhalese. 

So now its a numbers game, who will be left to fight at the end of the cull? Just like the violent JVP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Wigs states that killing Prabakaran will not silence the Tamils.</p>
<p>Dear Mr Wigs, I have news for you. the same applies to the Sinhalese. Killing Premadasa, Kadirgamar, bombing the central bank, dalada maligawa etc will not  silence the Sinhalese or submit them to concede anything to anybody. After 30 years what have the Sinhalese conceded?</p>
<p>Since the LTTE is targetting the Sri Lankan leadership, the LTTE leadership is fair game.</p>
<p>The Sri Lankans are perfectly capable of dealing with terrorism. We did it with the JVP and Pinoche did it in Chile. We will do it again in Sri Lanka within the next 12 months.</p>
<p>I now the Tamil nationalists have a different opinion, and we cannot convince them as they cannot convince the Sinhalese. </p>
<p>So now its a numbers game, who will be left to fight at the end of the cull? Just like the violent JVP.</p>
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